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	<title>Comments on: Buying A House Is The Biggest Mistake You Could Make &#8211; The Renting Vs Buying Argument</title>
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	<description>The Arizona Housing Bubble And Credit Crisis From A Consumer&#039;s Point Of View</description>
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		<title>By: w</title>
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		<dc:creator>w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 05:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each simple rule will have exceptions.  But, as a general simpleton-type financial rule for first-time home buyers: 

FORMULA:
&lt;b&gt;If (monthly rent) &lt; (monthly mortgage + taxes + upkeep), then rent&lt;/b&gt;

If you think you might be moving in a few years to another city or another state, then also rent.

Otherwise, think about buying and look at the other factors.  The formula above is meant as a test of undervalue or overvalue -- a way to pay attention to the underlying asset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each simple rule will have exceptions.  But, as a general simpleton-type financial rule for first-time home buyers: </p>
<p>FORMULA:<br />
<b>If (monthly rent) &lt; (monthly mortgage + taxes + upkeep), then rent</b></p>
<p>If you think you might be moving in a few years to another city or another state, then also rent.</p>
<p>Otherwise, think about buying and look at the other factors.  The formula above is meant as a test of undervalue or overvalue &#8212; a way to pay attention to the underlying asset.</p>
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		<title>By: Momo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Momo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we bought a 3-story, 7-bedroom house. Our mortgage is about $1,150. We rent 4 rooms out. Before owning this house we rented a 1-bedroom apartment for $675 (+ utilities). 
Was it a bad idea? We don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we bought a 3-story, 7-bedroom house. Our mortgage is about $1,150. We rent 4 rooms out. Before owning this house we rented a 1-bedroom apartment for $675 (+ utilities).<br />
Was it a bad idea? We don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 03:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how economies revert to the mean over time.  

My wife and I moved to AZ 2 years ago.  We rented a house in North Scottsdale for $1350 per month, and (smaller)homes in this neighborhood were selling for $375k at the time.  A mortgage payment @ 6% would have been $2100+ taxes+ HOA.  (around $2300 all in)  

Now, two years later, some of these homes have been sold for well below $200k 

Rents are about the same as they were two years ago.  

The wild card in all of these transactions was the &quot;creative&quot; mortgages that allowed the &quot;owner&quot; to pay $1000 a month on a $400k debt - for a while.    Those are the homes that were rented at seemingly crazy low prices.  They&#039;re the same homes being sold as foreclosures right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how economies revert to the mean over time.  </p>
<p>My wife and I moved to AZ 2 years ago.  We rented a house in North Scottsdale for $1350 per month, and (smaller)homes in this neighborhood were selling for $375k at the time.  A mortgage payment @ 6% would have been $2100+ taxes+ HOA.  (around $2300 all in)  </p>
<p>Now, two years later, some of these homes have been sold for well below $200k </p>
<p>Rents are about the same as they were two years ago.  </p>
<p>The wild card in all of these transactions was the &#8220;creative&#8221; mortgages that allowed the &#8220;owner&#8221; to pay $1000 a month on a $400k debt &#8211; for a while.    Those are the homes that were rented at seemingly crazy low prices.  They&#8217;re the same homes being sold as foreclosures right now.</p>
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		<title>By: The Five Most Dangerous Mistakes You Can Make Renting A House That Can Cost You Thousands And Lead To Eviction</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonahousingbubble.com/2007/buying-a-house-is-the-biggest-mistake-you-could-make-the-renting-vs-buying-argument/comment-page-1/#comment-621</link>
		<dc:creator>The Five Most Dangerous Mistakes You Can Make Renting A House That Can Cost You Thousands And Lead To Eviction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this new economical era, people are beginning to question, &#8220;Should I buy a house or rent a house&#8221;. Prices are falling, but they don&#8217;t appear to be stopping. Many people are scared after [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this new economical era, people are beginning to question, &#8220;Should I buy a house or rent a house&#8221;. Prices are falling, but they don&#8217;t appear to be stopping. Many people are scared after [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mlimberg</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonahousingbubble.com/2007/buying-a-house-is-the-biggest-mistake-you-could-make-the-renting-vs-buying-argument/comment-page-1/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>mlimberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 22:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who insists that &quot;Now is the time to buy a House&quot;, is both an idiot and a real estate agent......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who insists that &#8220;Now is the time to buy a House&#8221;, is both an idiot and a real estate agent&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jingle Jingle! New York County&#8217;s Foreclosure Filings Jump 113% - But Not Because Of Job Loss &#124; The Arizona Housing Bubble &#124; Watching The Arizona Real Estate, Credit, Lending, And Mortgage Crisis From A Consumer's Point Of View</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonahousingbubble.com/2007/buying-a-house-is-the-biggest-mistake-you-could-make-the-renting-vs-buying-argument/comment-page-1/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>Jingle Jingle! New York County&#8217;s Foreclosure Filings Jump 113% - But Not Because Of Job Loss &#124; The Arizona Housing Bubble &#124; Watching The Arizona Real Estate, Credit, Lending, And Mortgage Crisis From A Consumer's Point Of View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seeing this more and more - the benefits of owning a house are no longer outweighing the benefits of renting instead. With high profile folks like Jose Canseco electing to be foreclosed on rather than make [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] seeing this more and more &#8211; the benefits of owning a house are no longer outweighing the benefits of renting instead. With high profile folks like Jose Canseco electing to be foreclosed on rather than make [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mortgage Loan Assistance Plans Fail, Foreclosures Climb 65%, Bank Seizures Double, And Now A Whole CITY Has Gone Bankrupt? I&#8217;m Feeling Pessimistic &#124; The GinBlog &#124; Funny Pics &#38; Video, Health &#38; Fitness, Photography, Tips, And Other Cool Stuff!</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonahousingbubble.com/2007/buying-a-house-is-the-biggest-mistake-you-could-make-the-renting-vs-buying-argument/comment-page-1/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>Mortgage Loan Assistance Plans Fail, Foreclosures Climb 65%, Bank Seizures Double, And Now A Whole CITY Has Gone Bankrupt? I&#8217;m Feeling Pessimistic &#124; The GinBlog &#124; Funny Pics &#38; Video, Health &#38; Fitness, Photography, Tips, And Other Cool Stuff!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blurbs to pretty much sum up the financial status of the country. Sometimes it feels good to be &#8220;throwing money away on rent&#8221;. Especially as I almost took the dive on a &#8220;great offer&#8221; last year before deciding to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blurbs to pretty much sum up the financial status of the country. Sometimes it feels good to be &#8220;throwing money away on rent&#8221;. Especially as I almost took the dive on a &#8220;great offer&#8221; last year before deciding to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Walking Away From Your Mortgage - The Lights Are On In Almost 19 Million Homes But Nobody&#8217;s Home &#124; The Arizona Housing Bubble &#124; Watching The Arizona Real Estate, Credit, Lending, And Mortgage Crisis From A Consumer's Point Of View</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonahousingbubble.com/2007/buying-a-house-is-the-biggest-mistake-you-could-make-the-renting-vs-buying-argument/comment-page-1/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>Walking Away From Your Mortgage - The Lights Are On In Almost 19 Million Homes But Nobody&#8217;s Home &#124; The Arizona Housing Bubble &#124; Watching The Arizona Real Estate, Credit, Lending, And Mortgage Crisis From A Consumer's Point Of View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Very important questions to ask yourselves as we get more and more statistics from very reputable sources. Is it really a better time to rent than to buy right now? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Very important questions to ask yourselves as we get more and more statistics from very reputable sources. Is it really a better time to rent than to buy right now? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 03:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s absolutely true. We are paying $2400 in mortgage on our home, and comparable homes in our neighborhood are only renting for $1150 - $1250 per month. We&#039;re stuck with this mortgage in Phoenix, and are now living in San Antonio because of my mother&#039;s medical issues. We can&#039;t rent our house out for what our mortgage payment is, and we can&#039;t sell our home for what we still owe on it. Rock...hard place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s absolutely true. We are paying $2400 in mortgage on our home, and comparable homes in our neighborhood are only renting for $1150 &#8211; $1250 per month. We&#8217;re stuck with this mortgage in Phoenix, and are now living in San Antonio because of my mother&#8217;s medical issues. We can&#8217;t rent our house out for what our mortgage payment is, and we can&#8217;t sell our home for what we still owe on it. Rock&#8230;hard place.</p>
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		<title>By: MG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While this is the sound decision for someone with the means to flirt with the margin like that, many owners renting homes out in this market simply can&#039;t afford to add property taxes, let alone basic monthly costs like HOA fees, into the rent.

Not when their neighbor is renting an identical house for $50 less.

You&#039;ll find interesting times when you talk to 3 owners on the same block and mention, &quot;well XXXX street will do it for $X,XXX&quot;.  I&#039;ve met many owners willing to eat whatever they could so long as it was LESS than their next month&#039;s mortgage payment for an empty house.  Some is greater than none for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this is the sound decision for someone with the means to flirt with the margin like that, many owners renting homes out in this market simply can&#8217;t afford to add property taxes, let alone basic monthly costs like HOA fees, into the rent.</p>
<p>Not when their neighbor is renting an identical house for $50 less.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find interesting times when you talk to 3 owners on the same block and mention, &#8220;well XXXX street will do it for $X,XXX&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve met many owners willing to eat whatever they could so long as it was LESS than their next month&#8217;s mortgage payment for an empty house.  Some is greater than none for sure.</p>
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